Mac OS 10.4

[sirzeo]

I'm sure this may be old news to some, but others may have not know this...

Tiger is GOLD. (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=976)

Refresh browsers to (whenever they go public with this): http://www.apple.com/macosx

[iefan]

I'm excited for the new stuff. Mostly core data. Other stuff will still be cool though.

[sirzeo]

Core Data and Core Image for me. I have been using SQLite for a while and really like it. I can't wait to see how Team Apple implements it for developers. Some of the features to XCode look promising.

Of course as a user I am greatly excited for the 2D rendering being 100% GPU based. Also Dashboard and Spotlight have my eye.

Every day is becoming a better day to be a Mac user/developer!

[Taxxodium]

You do realize that the news was made public on April 1 (aka April Fools day).

Personally, I don't it has gone Gold yet. Apple would definitly let us know that.

[sirzeo]

So it hasn't been confirmed yet by Apple; oh well. GMail last year was anounced on April 1st, that wasn't a joke. Apple for the longest time has been saying the first half of 2005.

We'll just have to wait and see.

This is kinda funny: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=os+x+tiger&btnG=Google+Search
(notice the Amazon add at the top, it indicates Tiger is now available). :)

[OneSadCookie]

Of course as a user I am greatly excited for the 2D rendering being 100% GPU based.

... which it won't be. Can't be; current GPUs can't support it. ATI reckons there are two more generations of GPU before that's possible.

Quartz 2D Extreme does accelerate certain things if the GPU is capable enough, though it's not clear to me yet what it accelerates. Certainly not text rendering.

[sirzeo]

Wow... don't listen to me.

I fell into another trap from a Apple rep I met a while ago. 'OneSadCookie' after you denied my statement, I did some more research on this and found your right. That apple rep clearly misunderstood Core Image (and I should made the connection awhile ago). According to Apple, core image will put more GPUs to work, but won't allow for 100% GPU 2D utilization. While we all might have known that, I wish I knew that when I was talking with the Apple rep.

On a side note... my favorite Apple April fools joke was: iHome (http://www.theappleblog.com/2005/04/01/apple-to-release-home-media-center-ihome/)

[Taxxodium]

... which it won't be. Can't be; current GPUs can't support it. ATI reckons there are two more generations of GPU before that's possible.

Quartz 2D Extreme does accelerate certain things if the GPU is capable enough, though it's not clear to me yet what it accelerates. Certainly not text rendering.

I think what he meant was that Quartz 2D is now using OpenGL and thus it's hardware accelerated.

[OneSadCookie]

that's what my response was to...

Quartz 2D Extreme hardware-accelerates certain parts of Quartz 2D on certain graphics cards. The bits that can't be accelerated by current hardware (text rendering at least) remain in software, and for the most of us that don't have "current hardware", there will still be no acceleration.

[Carlos Camacho]

OSC or an Apple rep? My bet will be on OSC ;)

I recently read a speed test that two ladies performed on their PowerBooks (the exact same model) -- one running Panther and the other Tiger. Even with Tiger at a pre-release version (duh) the writer talked about the perceived difference in speed (in Tiger's favour.) Sounds good to me. For me, various new features sound good but at the end of the day, the "feature" that I always want is speed.

Cheers,

[Taxxodium]

that's what my response was to...

Quartz 2D Extreme hardware-accelerates certain parts of Quartz 2D on certain graphics cards. The bits that can't be accelerated by current hardware (text rendering at least) remain in software, and for the most of us that don't have "current hardware", there will still be no acceleration.


Ah OK, I misread your post then.

I wonder how much faster Tiger will be on a G5 with its 64bit addressing.
The feature I'm looking forward to is Dashboard. I think that's the answer to all developers who want to write (background only) utilities.

[DoG]

64bit addressing gives no speed advantage whatsoever.

[OneSadCookie]

And, virtually no parts of Tiger will use 64-bit addressing. The support is there for 3rd-party apps that need it (databases, etc.), but virtually no Apple-shipped software will use it.

[evangs]

that's what my response was to...

Quartz 2D Extreme hardware-accelerates certain parts of Quartz 2D on certain graphics cards. The bits that can't be accelerated by current hardware (text rendering at least) remain in software, and for the most of us that don't have "current hardware", there will still be no acceleration.

What parts of Quartz 2D are accelerated? And on what cards?

[OneSadCookie]

Which parts, I don't know. The cards are Radeon 9500 or better, or GeForce FX or better, with at least 64MB of VRAM. Basically, anything that supports ARB_fragment_program.

[evangs]

OK. My Powerbook 12" is going to be supported then :)

[iefan]

I'd hope so, 12-incher are pretty new. It's what I live off!